3 Facing Prison Time In $1M Toilet Paper Scam

WEST PALM BEACH (CB4)-A South Florida trio is facing up to two decades in prison after they were allegedly involved in a $1 million toilet paper scam in Palm Beach County.

Federal prosecutors said the three conned elderly customers into buying unnecessary septic products, in some cases more than 70 years worth of toilet paper, CBS4 news partner The Miami Herald reported.

According to the Herald, the three worked for FBK Products of West Palm Beach. They told more than a dozen of their victims that they needed the company’s special toilet paper to avoid ruining their septic tanks. They told their victims that the federal government changed regulations on toilet paper, the Herald reported. The federal government, though, does not regulate septic tank products.

In phone pitches, salespeople claimed the company was affiliated with the Environmental Protection Agency, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the U.S. Department of Agriculture. One product, the $199 Septic Remedy treatment, would eliminate the need to have their tanks pumped, the company claimed.

Victims were also told that they needed special soap, detergent and toilet paper or their septic tanks would not pass federal inspection, the Herald reported. But the EPA does not regulate septic tank products, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office.

Three of the suspects, Christopher Lincoln, Mary Moore and Joseph Nouerand, this week pleaded guilty in federal court to conspiring to commit wire fraud. They agreed to cooperate with prosecutors and will be sentenced in February.

Three other employees are awaiting trial.

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  • JoeAstroturf

    This shouldn’t be a crime. By Sheryl Crows standards thats only 5 rolls.

    Check out song called “teapartiers I can’t hear you” on youtube

    Here’s a verse

    Baucus is threatening insurance companies Obama the CBO
    Medicare Advantage and free speech is about to go
    He’d rather see people in our forts , planes and La liberty building die
    then to see a muslim terrorist get water in his eye
    All the insane and pervert czars and the communist ones too
    are surprised how easily they took us without even a coup

  • sharon pendleton

    This is an interesting story. I hope the Government pinheads don’t get any big ideas about regulating toilet paper after reading this.

    • raf

      They already do in federal prison you are give one roll per week no matter what, extras are confiscated i know i was there!!

    • jjj

      They already have sharon. It’s called CONGRESSIONAL action.

    • GEL

      Thats the sad part of this story. These people were so scared of the government, they fell for this scam. Maybe if our federal government weren’t so overeaching………

      • Nancy Irving

        Rather, maybe if they didn’t listen to Rush so much.

        It’s only in their fevered imaginations, ginned up by conservative talk-radio and Fox, that the govt is overreaching.

        These people knew how to scam conservative geezers–blame the EPA!

    • Typical White Person

      Perhaps they can donate the TP to the occupoopers.

  • steve5150

    If the feds don,t regulate toilet paper it is because they overlooked it. If they see this article they will have regulations drawn up in a week.

    • biskitts

      Well, at the very least, one term NJ governor Jim Florio put a tax on toilet paper back in 1990.

      Guess it’s not hard to understand why he was only a one term governor, huh?

  • John C

    “suspects, Christopher Lincoln, Mary Moore and Joseph Nouerand,”

    Are they Muslims? I have to ask since Islam is not a race but a religion where anyone can join. Islamic extremists declared war on the United States in the early 90s. Nothing should be off the table once comes to national security. Call me stupid, but even stupid people should be vigilant about national security.

    • Dave Q

      your stupid

      • Chuck

        Should be “you’re”. Pot, kettle, black?

    • mgbincn

      You are stupid.

    • Toilet Paper scofflaw

      O.K. I’ll bite. You’re stupid.

  • http://ny9solyndra.wordpress.com NY9Solyndra

    Sounds just like the Dem Party scam for health care, student loans, etc..

    • Scarf

      Sounds like you’re an idiot that needs to get back on your meds and off mommy’s computer.

      • thomas

        Sounds more like you than anything.

      • Regulas

        No, the sarcasm has a base in facts, a great place here and you are a tool leftist dunkoff, look it it up.

      • jjj

        Scarf. Too bad you didn’t leave any meds for anyone else. Does your mommy know you’re here? Don’t miss the SHORT BUS home from school.

  • old dude

    And John Corzine walks the street.

  • freecheese

    I’m 64-years old. I’ve always believed that these older poeple who get scamed were stupid before they grew old.
    I have an 86-year old father – in – law. You can’t scam this guy ! He’s sharp.
    Yes, I understand dementia, but you can’t convince me that everybod over a certain age can’t make sensible decisions .

    • George Johnson

      It’s not so much stupidity, as it is they’re just more trusting.
      They grew up in a different time, when people trusted what other people said, and in different areas, where people didn’t think about locking their doors.
      Yeah, it sounds a bit like stupidity. But they got a phone call, from somebody that sounded like they knew what they were talking about, were connected to the government (and should know), and probably sounded like nice people, with good products.
      Why have people bought into the global warming hoax? Why do people by magnets to alleviate pain and make them stronger/ Why do people STILL believe in government schools?
      They were scammed, they’re not stupid.

      • Bearcat

        I’m 61 and find it sad that someone has no compassion for elderly people being duped.

    • Bearcat

      Who is trying to convince you that everybod over a certain age can’t make sensible decisions?

    • Gregg

      Looks like you did not get wiser as you got older. Sad.

    • Japes Macfarland

      You feel this way, freecheese, probably because you are a secular leftist, Statist, etc. and therefore have no empathy for the more trusting, traditional Americans amongst us.

    • chubchub

      Now they need to move on to AARP and jail those criminal scam artists.

  • quagga53

    “The federal government, though, does not regulate septic tank products.” It doesn’t?! You mean, there is something they don’t regulate? Unbelievable. ‘Course, with this story – the cats out of he bag.

    • Deb

      Now that the government knows they do not currently regulate septic tanks they will close that loophole!

      • CommonSensePls

        Yep…here comes the doody tax!

    • chubchub

      Given the state of our present form of government, you’d think they would have started in the sewers and septic tanks.

  • PhillyKen

    Sounds like Amway…

    • K B

      It IS Amway!!!!

    • chubchub

      Your failure in life is mitigated one post at a time.

      • jjj

        Just following your lead there…chubchub.

  • michael

    70 years of T.P ? Now that is something to pass along as an inheritence !

    • K B

      Would that fall under the estate tax, or would it be doody-free?? *groan*

      • Lazybum

        That were a good un!

    • jjj

      70 years? Sounds like the IRS code books have finally been exposed…ONE SHEET at a time.

  • EllsworthT

    What’s more pathetic is government regulating toilet paper is actually believable. I sure hope these crooks haven’t given the despots in D.C. any new ideas!

    • jjj

      Don’t worry. NOBODY in D.C. EVER gets a New Idea. But new rolls of TP on each desk in the Senate, and on the floor in the OVAL ORIFICE is a start…slippery though it may be.

  • SouthBronxKid

    The most successful salesmen throughout history have convinced people to purchase products they really don’t need…but now it’s a federal crime punishable by 2 decades in prison. USA: 5%of the world’s population and 25% of the world’s prisoners. We are doomed !!!

  • wet sand

    One sock full of wet sand and 60 minutes is all that is needed.

  • cuban_expat

    I’d like to know their ethnicity. Most of these crooks are Cuban expatriates who lost to Fidel the Liberator. Consequently they’re only here to establish a Commie paradise. Just look around.

    • Gregg

      I doubt they are Cuban expats with names like Christopher Lincoln, Mary Moore and Joseph Nouerand. I think it is despicable though to prey on the elderly and actually think the punishment for elder fraud and abuse should reflect larger penalties and jail time.

      • Achilles

        I too finf it dispicable that people will prey on the elderly for financial gain. However, the elderly in this case were to blame for this act of stupidity. At their age they should have known better not to verify all claims made by salespeople. It’s oly human nature. As President Reagon said “trust but verify”.

    • bob

      Why are you so stupid?

  • TD

    What is sad is how believable it is that the Federal Govt would regulate what you flush into a septic tank.

    • sweetlips

      It’s coming…they’re already regulating light bulbs.

  • Twyla Tish-Hu

    Look on the bright side: These old-timers won’t have to duel with the likes of Mr. Whipple ever again.

    • sharon pendleton

      Good one.LOL Twyla

  • poorhardworker

    I’m sorry…this is despicable ! Preying on people that did their best for 70+ years….what has this country become? I will answer my own question: Devoid of any compassion!

    • thomas

      Thank your current president for the way its fashionable to lie,cheat and steal.His moo-moo wife makes it vogue to embzle money at a break-neck speed.Dont worry, he will pardon them if they are remotely connected to current lend to bankrupt company program.

  • sweetlips

    Actually, those scam artists are not far from the truth.
    The government is already telling us what kind of light bulbs we MUST use.

    • Sana Terry 'Hy' Jean

      “The government is already telling us what kind of light bulbs we MUST use.”

      To wipe our butts?

      I think I prefer tulip bulbs.

      Those curly ones scare me…

  • kpr

    The Federal Gov’t, State Gov’ts and Local Govts, meanwhile; are all asking themselves: “Why didn’t we come up with this scam first??? Quick – Draft new legislation!! We must regulate what goes in septic tanks and charge special tax on toilet paper! The idiot Americans will accept it – this proves it!

  • stoptouchingthatmabel

    Whether the elderly victims should have known better does not matter the scam was on and the trio tried to rip these people off put them in jail and throw away the toilet paper for them.

  • Fred

    But the government does tell us what kind of toilets we must use … This doesn’t sound all that far fetched as to something the government would try to do. It’s only a matter of time until they tell us what kind of TP paper to use.

  • Oldmean Veteran

    Oldsters that stupid should have their voting privileges pulled.

    • bored

      It is Florida

  • mike

    they must be democrats

    • jjj

      Democrats use TP in place of MONOPOLY Money. Better known as the Obama Economic Principle. Watch Out. Soon Obama will be forced to BORROW TP from the Chinese. He won’t know which hand to us when WIPING.

  • iet

    quit knoxing the dems. its getting old. i think you people have something better to do with it than being stupid.

  • CommonSensePls

    And I thought Obama followers put him on a pedestal…. Ron Paul is a god to his.
    They also seem to love to call other people names instead of making the case for Paul….typical lack of critical thinking skills and “vote for our guy” because he isn’t “insert some disparaging name here” mentality.
    The only impact Paul would make if he ran would to deliver Obama a win in a close election by siphoning off votes from the other viable candidate. Of course, there’s no chance of that if we consider the mid-terms the writing on the wall for 2012.

    • EllsworthT

      You have to admit it, though, you’d love to have a Ron Paul presidency, right? Can you imagine how much better off this country would be without the Education, Energy, and Commerce Departments? How about cutting the corporate tax rate to 15 percent? Suppose young people were given the freedom to opt out of the Social Security ponzi scheme? Or imagine no longer subsidizing foreign countries? I don’t know if Americans could handle that much freedom. We certainly don’t deserve it!

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