Disciplinary Note Stapled To Child’s Shirt

MIAMI (CBS4) – A Miami-Dade woman said her son’s teacher made a big mistake ridiculing her son, but the district said there was an explanation for what happened to the student at W.J. Bryan Elementary School.

“This is totally wrong. This is inappropriate. This is ethically wrong,” Rose Innocent said about what happened to her second-grade son at school. She claims that his teacher humiliated her son by stapling a disciplinary note to his shirt for talking in class.

“He was upset, he said the kids had been laughing at him,” Innocent said. “He was embarrassed and humiliated.”

“Everyone was starting to laugh at me,” the child said. “That’s when I got the feeling; I was angry and mad.”

Innocent said the teacher’s reasoning for stapling the note was to make sure the parents received the note because the teacher felt the child hadn’t been taking home progress and disciplinary reports requested by his parents.

Innocent said she had been getting those reports. She said she believes the teacher was upset over the child talking and embarrassed him on purpose. The mother also said she never got an apology from the teacher.

“The words that came out of her mouth were, ‘if the shirt is the problem, I will go ahead and replace the shirt for you,’” Innocent said. “I didn’t get, ‘I apologize I shouldn’t have done that.’”

Miami-Dade Schools released a statement saying: To make sure that the note reached home, the teacher fastened the note to the child’s shirt, then placed the child’s sweatshirt over it, so that the note would not cause any undue attention.

Innocent told CBS4’s Gwen Belton that she has taken her child out of that classroom and is contemplating taking the child out of the school completely.

  • gary liv

    But then again the teacher should just have made a telephone call to the parents of the child which is the proper way to go about things you just dont go around stapling notes on childrens clothes that to me is very unprofessional of a teacher and of course it would make the child create a complex by having all the other children make fun of him i really believe that teacher should render an apology to the parents and the school shold take repremendatory comments to the teacher not just allow something like that to happen

    • David

      totally agree, and this teacher needs to be replaced. Imagine if he/she is willing to allow a small child to be ridiculed by his classmates FOR TALKING, what is she willing to do later? I am the first to stand up for teachers but not this one, there are plenty of good teachers out there looking for work. This boy was 7 yrs old, if this teacher doesn’t know how to motivate kids at this age he/she needs to get another profession.

      • William Newsreader

        David – I dont think “motivation” is the problem here… Guess what? Speaking out of turn is very rude and we SHOULD FEEL EMBARRASED when doing so. Apparently the kid is not used being embarassed for acting like a fool. I’d say it’s time he started learning.

      • JMH

        Preach it!

      • Sharon

        Hey and this is none of my business? Had that been my child? The teacher and the district best give their soul to God cause their butt would be mine. I had a teacher in the 5th grade that grabbed me and threw me up against the desk cause I had gone up there to tell her my homework fell out of my book and I was sorry. She was angry at two other little boys and grabbed me and slung me up against the desk. Resulting in brusiing and embarrassement. There was no excuse for this..Has the teacher thought of a telephone? they were in everyones home by the 50’s. I will not condone this, I will never condone it. I do not care what the school says. They have to back the teachers…My mom never calmed down enough to talk to the teacher that did that to me…
        My daughter’s teachers knew, PUT YOUR HANDS ON MY CHILD and we go outside……NO EXCUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can we staple stupid to her? and make her wear it for a month?

      • Ann Stuetzer

        I had notes pinned on me all the time as a young elementary student. This woman needs to GET OVER IT! What an idiot!!

    • junior

      Oh please. This teacher was sending home reports to which the lazy parents did not respond and now you think the teacher should have to take MORE personal time to deal with deadbeat parents. Her kid was a brat, end of story. The mom owes the teacher an apology for not teaching her brat how to act in public.

      • Peggy

        Totally agree. He had been causing her enough grief, and had gotten no help from the parents.

      • Cathy

        I totally agree too. The mother seems to have an attitude problem herself. What is the big to do?

      • Cathy

        Actually, I think Channel 4 should be ashamed for reporting on such a ridiculous story and trying to make a big fuss over nothing. I wonder if this is actually an unbiased report?
        I think there a lot more important things to report on the news than give credit to this pity party.

      • Brandi Burger

        give it a rest people this child is only in second grade hes not a high schooler or a kid in jr high HE IS A CHILD how many adults do u know that are rude i know plenty…….but this child is just that a child………they are going to speak out of turn duhhhh…..its up to the parents and teachers to teach the child its not appropriate…..you dont do that by stapling a disciplinary note to the shirt….that was ridiculous……….

    • Barlow

      Some parents don’t have phones. Oh and a little humiliation at a young age may be what keeps the kid in line the rest of his schooling. It is called motivation to behave. Mine is to not go to jail. Kids that are never shown consequences will never fear them. Real world. For every action an equal and opposite reaction.

    • Lady Vols !

      Have you tried to call parents lately? The phones are disconnected or the numbers have been changed or they can’t be reached at normal hours. If you read the article you can see that the teacher put a sweater over the note so no one would see it… The little kid probably pulled the note our to show everyone he knew. IIn my day if a teacher had sent a note home on my clothing my dad would have spanked me and asked what did I do to upset the teacher… In our society the teachers are made to be scapegoats and the poor little kid get’s his feelings hurt for being disrespectful and unruly at school.

      • Elfinn Magic

        The teacher put a SWEATER over the note.

        Then this was NOT about humiliation and that mother should be ashamed of herself.

      • Jennifer Minahan Pearson

        Elfinn Magic — The school district SAYS the teacher put a sweater over it. The child says he had a jacket and was forced to remove it. Without being there yourself, you really can’t know, now can you?

      • Gio

        Totally agree. Sharon has no idea what she is talking about. She was abused in her class and that is not good however this kid was not abused. If he doesnt talk in class then this doesnt happen. Obiously it wasnt the first time since she has sent notes home in the past. This kid deserved it and the mom is stupid for condoning the behavior. This is whats wrong with America, just too soft of a country. Blame everybody or anything but the person responsible.

    • Barbara

      I am so sick of everyone overprotecting kids from “humiliation”. We are creating a bunch of punks. Everyone looking at this story has been embarrassed a time or two and we are all living….it didnt kill us. If the parent had responded in a timely manner to the previous requests for a conference, like a good parent should, then the incident would have never happened. I am a teacher and we dont have time to hunt down unresponsive parents. We have too much work to do. Talking in class may seem minor to you but any minutes dealing with a disruptive child is a minute I cant teach. If you want to be helicopter parents protecting them from whats foes on in the real world eeryday then home school them. We are preparing kids for the real world…and a backbone comes in handy there.

      • mandi1225

        Amen and amen again. I am a teacher as well and you are soooo RIGHT!

      • Marquita

        Preach it!!!!!!! Tell ’em again!

      • Shan

        Thank you!!!

      • Lo

        I was a kid once and what I wouldn’t give to go back in time and ring my teachers neck for embarrassing me or singling me out for a group issue. You are all power hungry mongers! They are just kids. Everyone notices the nice new teacher who is fun and bubbly then by 2 or 3 years of teaching you can tell the toll it has taken. They become bitter…

      • Jennifer Minahan Pearson

        Barbara – embarrassment and humiliation are two different things, as are either of those happening by accident or on purpose. You’re right, embarrassment doesn’t kill us, but being humiliated (on PURPOSE) by someone whose job it is to foster a positive learning environment for us (i.e. someone who is supposed to CARE for us) is potentially damaging… like having a parent that we don’t feel loves us. You shouldn’t have to hunt down unresponsive parents, but for eight hours a day, YOU are like a parent to those children, and you should know your students (and various teaching/learning strategies) well enough to try something different for the students that the “same old thing” just doesn’t work for. The only way for kids to “build a backbone”, as you said, is for them to feel confident enough in their own decision-making to stand up for themselves and their opinions.
        That being said, maybe you need to attend some workshops on alternative teaching strategies.
        Or, if you’d rather leave the one sheep behind and go on with your 99, so to speak (from a Biblical perspective), then maybe you’d better find a different occupation. Whatever happened to “No Child Left Behind”?

    • x

      I spent 55 minutes last week trying to reach a parent. Parents don’t answer the phone, have their phones disconnected and so forth. The only way to get the parent to answer is to use the child’s cell phone.

    • jake byas

      did you even read the article in which it stated the teacher placed a sweatshirt over the shirt and NOTE to not draw attention to the child?
      and if anyone needs an apology it should be the teacher for having to deal with such an unruly child whose parents will not discipline him.

      “discipline is not the enemy of enthusiasm”

      • Jennifer Minahan Pearson

        If you listened to video, you’d also know that there were conflicting stories regarding the sweater/jacket being over the note, where the school board claimed the teacher put it over it, but the child claimed she made him remove it.
        I think that without being there personally, or without getting the story of the other children, that it’s not possible to know who is telling the truth regarding that, and is therefore best not to take sides on the sweater issue without having complete information.

      • Ms. Cindy

        Maybe classrooms should have cameras in them, so that its nolong a who did or did not comply with the school regulations. If your child is unruly than take the proper steps to improve the situation.

        if you know school policy that states notices like this one are fastened to the child, ( I would question stapling it, saftey pin would be better) then, you either did not read the notices that came with your child or did not respond the fault lies with you. The teacher offering to buy another shirt was strange as well as this article.

    • buttered toast

      If the parents got the previous notes about their child’s bad behavior, they should have responded. The mother of the child says that she received previous notes about her child’s behavior but did nothing. This means that the mother herself bears responsibility for her child’s continued bad behavior. Sadly, you can’t fire irresponsible parents.

      We also don’t know if the teacher did try to call home and got no answer. My guess is that if the teacher got to this level of frustration, she probably had tried several times to call the parents, but never reached them. I know many teachers who call parents of troubled students multiple times, leave messages, and get no response. If the parents don’t respond, there’s not much else a teacher can do. Here again, the onus is on the parents to do the right thing.

      The little boy did not deserve to have a note stapled to his clothing, but his mother certainly did. Perhaps the next time, the teacher can make a home visit and apply a stapler to Mama’s blouse. Maybe this time, that irresponsible parent will get the message.

      • Jennifer Minahan Pearson

        I actually like your comment. But I would like to point out, we don’t know what the child’s previous notes home were for. Some teachers are likely to write notes home for looking at you funny. Not all, but some, for sure. Also, we don’t know what hours the mother works, etc. and truthfully, teachers are trained (or at least early childhood ones are, not sure about elementary ones) to adapt to different learning styles and/or disabilities. I think the biggest problem here is that we, being on the outside, don’t know the whole story or history behind this.

    • Props to the teacher

      children need to learn how to behave at HOME, if they dont, then they become a teachers problem and the teacher has to put up with that crap.. hell no. Props to that teacher.

    • Natalie


      Why do you think the parents have PHONES. They might not be able to afford the cost. On top of that – hello caller ID! If you KNEW your kid was always in trouble after a while parents just stop returning calls because they believe their kid over the adult. Caller ID just means they can avoid the teacher all day long. Plus who is supposed to watch those kids while the teacher is calling 1 parent?! The janitor?

      As for the poor child being embarrassed, this kid is always in class giving issues to the teacher. What about causing the TEACHER embarrassment and heartbreak? Or what about this BRAT taking time and teacher’s interest towards himself and away from the kids that are NOT causing an issue? That kid who will NOT behave in the classroom is taking precious resources for himself and taking it from GOOD kids.

      I believe the teacher should apologize to the parent. i believe MORE though that the PARENT should APOLOGIZE to the TEACHER for having their child disrupting the class. Plus that parent should APOLOGIZE to every parent who has a child in that class!

      • Jennifer Minahan Pearson

        I don’t believe it embarrasses the teacher when a child disrupts class, but I can see where it might break their hearts a little… if they actually care about their students. But my question to you is: how do you know the kid is a brat, and that his issues aren’t the symptoms of a deeper-rooted cause? He could have a learning disability, and maybe his way of not having that noticed is to divert attention from it by misbehaving. Or he could have parents that hardly talk to him (just because she’s mad about this doesn’t mean she usually pays much attention to him). The point is, teachers and parents need to communicate and work together more. The other point is that we don’t know the whole story.

    • teach123

      As a teacher, I try to make phone calls home for any behavioral issues. However, a VERY common problem is phone numbers being disconnected. I do not think that stapling a note to a child’s shirt is the best choice. But why is it that this is the first time the mother is getting back to the teacher. If she was receiving the discipline notices (plural), then why didn’t she try to work out a plan to help her kid be successful. It sounds to me like the teacher made a mistake, but the mom did as well. Everything could have been avoided if she would have communicated with the teacher.

    • Lo

      Seriously its called parent teacher conference! If you can’t get ahold of the parent via telephone take it to a higher power in the school. IF its that big of an issue!

    • Suzanne Jackson

      From experience if the teacher called she would not have gotten an answer or a return call if she left a message. Sometimes you have to be creative in getting your point across.

  • tim3500

    Both mother and kid need a whooping…

    • richcady

      Next they will want to sue the teacher, school, & school board for humiliating her 7 year old brat!

      • SF

        They should!!!

      • Sharon

        I was far from a brat. I was caught in the middle. If in fact, keeping in mind my mom worked for southern bell for over 30 years, there was no contact between the teacher or parents, then a meeting was in order. I am sorry but I side with the child. He is not a bad child bad people he is around. No child is bad….It is the other students and parents, not to mention the teachers. They are far from angels. So just because half of you went to the principles office does not mean all of us did. I was never in trouble and that happened to me. doctor documented too. She was older. But an I’m Sorry? is far from enough .. His classes should be changed. I will not side with anyone but the child.

    • swell

      The teacher was out of line. Contact the parent – yes. Damage property – no. Emotionally abuse the kid – no. The teacher had a great many options to choose from in this situation and she chose poorly. She could have held the kid in from recess and worked on “being quiet in class” (the way my teachers 30 years ago did). How hard is it to pick up a phone or write an e-mail. For crying out loud, if she thought the kid wasn’t delivering notes, she could have snail-mailed them! If she thought the mother wasn’t taking the notes seriously or wasn’t receiving them, she should have arranged a conference.

      • ZZt0p

        Emotionally abuse the kid? You AREN’T serious are you!

      • What?

        My teachers 30 years ago would have wolloped him on his behind. Damage property…gimmee a break. Emotionally abuse the kid? I can’t even believe you said that. You know when your child is acting up in school, as did this mother since she requested the notes be sent home. So why in the frog biscuits is she upset b/c she was informed by a note that made it home that he was being a pain? Discipline him @ home so the teacher doesn’t have to. Geesh…that’s the part that isn’t that hard…and parents have a variety of ways to that too…for crying out loud.

      • Lormula

        How exactly does a staple through a shirt constitute property damage? It’s the same puncture a safety pin would make. As to emotional abuse, read the statement from the school: “Miami-Dade Schools released a statement saying: To make sure that the note reached home, the teacher fastened the note to the child’s shirt, then placed the child’s sweatshirt over it, so that the note would not cause any undue attention.” It sounds to me as though the teacher did what she could to ensure the note made it home with the child, and if the sweatshirt covered it, there should have been no problem. If the kid took the sweatshirt off, well . . . he knew the note was under there. I think the mother needs to take a step back and just calm down. There is no wrongdoing here.

      • Cate

        Do we know that the parent has email? Do we know that the parent would pick up the phone when the school called? I often times had to block the phone number of the school so that parents would actually answer their phones. Sad when you have to track the parents down about their joyful little spawn.

      • Charlie

        hahaha, damage property? hahaha, get a life!! Forming a “Support the Teacher” group here! Anyone else want to be an adult and join with me?

      • Lady Vols1

        R U Serious?!!! How do you know the teacher had not exhaused all the options? Have you tried to call a parent lately? No home phone, only a cell nuimber which is out of minutes or goes right to voice mail. When was the last time you kept a kid out of PE for 3o min. or Recess? You do know teachers have been mandated to make their students get some type of physical activity for 90 minutes per week in K-12 don’t you…. Do not take a child out of recess, ever they will eat you alive when they get back into the classroom from excess energy and highblood sugar from the lunches. Snail mail… Oh yes, let me see… Your son misbehaved in my class again today. Please call me. Three days later the letter arrives and goes on top of all the other letters. 6 months later… Hey Mrs, Doe, I just read this letter from you that said Danny was misbehaving. Why didn’t you send a note home? LOL.. Get Real… You don’t teach do you Swell?

      • auburn sux

        Ever thought the parent might not be reachable by phone? Look, I’m not condoning the action. I spent 12 years in education and dealt with my share of problem students. I would love to hear the teacher and other staff at the school be able to tell what the kid is really like. I would bet my salary that he isn’t the model child. I would also bet the parent has never been reachable until now….until a camera is shoved in her face and she smells lawsuit.

      • Tempest

        Attitudes like yours are why our prisons are so full! Emotional abuse??? Please! Maybe the other parents should sue this woman for allowing her kid to disrupt their kids right to an education without the class being continuously disrupted by this little heathen brat!! This kid needs to be taught to take responsibility for his actions and he’s obviously not being taught much in his home except how to misbehave and blame others!

        If this is what the teacher resorted to then she was obviously at the end of her rope and had tried other means which did NOT work! The parents are obviously lazy and neglectful, and they obviously have not taught this brat how to behave properly in public and probably ignored the teachers previous reports! There were kids like this brat in school with me over 30 years ago and whom went to school with my kids, and parents of kids like this one just don’t give a crap how the kid behaves and are toooo LAZY to teach him to how behave in public! He’s obviously acting out due to having a poor home life, normal kids with loving caring home lives don’t act this way!!!!

      • SJ

        Just out of curiosity, how much free time do you think teachers have? If you work in an office, it’s not at all difficult to pick up the phone to call someone. However, when you are in charge of 30 children, you can’t just wander down to the office every time you need to make a phone call. I would love to be able to call the parents of my students every time there was a problem, but I only get 35 “free” minutes a day, and I’m somehow supposed to get all of my grading and lesson planning done in that time Personal phone calls are just not realistic, and parents who are involved at school understand that.

        In an ideal world the teacher could keep the one disrespectful student in at recess and “work on” their behavior, but it probably is not just one disrespectful student, and at some point the teacher would probably like to eat her lunch or use the bathroom.

        Where is your list of the things that the parent could have done differently? It’s very easy to blame the teachers, but educating children is a two-way street. The responsibility cannot be solely on the teachers.

      • ireaddaily

        swell, obviously you haven’t spent any time in a classroom recently. First of all this is not abuse. Second, if the child was so upset maybe he shouldn’t have been talking in class. Third, the parents hadn’t responded to previous notes sent home. Maybe if they had addressed the problem the note wouldn’t have been sent home this way. The parents had requested progress reports yet didn’t respond to them.

        I’m also wondering why this made national news…… It seems as if someone is looking for a payout for being a lousy parent. I’m tired of teachers being scapegoated when parents aren’t doing their jobs. By the way, when I was in grammar school, eons ago, all of our notes came home pinned to our shirts.

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  • Shelly

    Really getting tired of these parents and kids that can’t behave. Shape up or ship out. And, as for this mother she can take the kid and leave it will allow the rest of the kids who want to learn a chance to do so. I feel for all the teachers out there and I feel bad that kids now a days have all this BS that interfere with education. Get real!

    • David

      you are either child-less or a teacher who can’t cut it. You are dead wrong, this 7yr old did not deserve this and even the teacher’s excuse points out she had enough with this kid, which is WRONG no matter what. Seriously, if she had a problem communicating with the parents she should have talk to the school admin, they can always get in touch, she could have setup a parent/teacher or a parent/counsellor meeting to resolve issues, instead, she punishes this 7 yr old, this teacher should work at mcdonalds, and I dont mean the drive thru window, maybe a broom job…

    • Witty Wife

      I am a mother of two, and honestly, I have no problem with this. When I was a kid, we loved our teachers, but we were also afraid of them. Not only that, we knew if they called or sent a note home, our parents would immediately take the side of the teacher.

      So, the kid was embarrassed? He SHOULD be embarrassed for misbehaving in class. He SHOULD be humbled. Mom should have responded to the other discipline reports that were sent home. Be a parent. The problem today is that kids aren’t humble at all; they feel entitled. Try hiring a kid out of college for an entry level position; they want the corner office with 5 weeks vacation and an expense account. And it all starts when these kids are young like this. Parents who tell their kids that can have anything or do anything.

      Embarrassing a kid in front of his peers is not abuse. It’s real life. I agree with Miss D. below – if my son came home with a note pinned to him, I’d ask him how many times the teacher had to ask him to behave before she pinned the note to him. And then I’d tell him I’m calling the teacher to give her permission to pin a note to him again if he misbehaves in class.

      Seriously, when did we all start becoming afraid of our children?? I’m not an advocate of ‘children should be seen and not heard’, but my goodness, let’s not forget that we’re parents and teachers and adults, and they are children who need to learn humility, humbleness, respect, and how to behave.

      • NYC Teach

        As a mother, no one can tell you how to raise your child. You are RIGHT that this might be how YOU would treat your child, but each parent is different. We live in a country 300 million people and procedures are in place to ensure that children are disciplined appropriately. If this is the Miami-Dade school district policy and they can defend it in court, that’s fine. But if it’s not, as a professional, it is not worth risking your job by putting your implementing your personal beliefs on how a child should be discipline. Policies and procedures are in place to protect both teacher, and the children/families they serve.

    • nina

      I agree. If parents don’t want their schoolteachers to discipline, they should home school. Oh, they can’t because they have to work ? then they need to let teachers do their jobs and quit whining!

  • Jason White

    the mom should thank this teacher !

  • Gerald

    If the mother was in fact receiving the progress and disciplinary reports and never got in touch with the teacher, the mother should probably apologize to the teacher, not the other way around. If the mother takes the appropriate steps to discipline her child at home, and if disciplinary reports continue to come in, the mother contacts the teacher to talk about it, nothing like this would have been necessary.

    Too many parents fail to take any responsibility for, or play any active role in their child’s development in school. But they are quick to jump on the teacher when the teacher tries to fill that role.

    I am happy to see that the county is standing behind the teacher on this one, at least on the surface.

    • David

      you’re right, when teachers are not smart enough to leave communications issues up the SCHOOL ADMIN they should just resort to humiliation of the student, wow, you are brilliant, and probably have no kids, or teach poorly.

  • via

    The teacher was wrong in stapling a note to the child’s shirt. There is not enough information here to discern whether the parent was irresponsible or not. Stapling the note to a shirt is destructive, inappropriate, and humiliating for the child.

    • Gerald

      Oh no we mustn’t humiliate an unruly and disruptive child. Even if it’s an invented humiliation. (the teacher put his sweatshirt on over it so what was he to be humiliated about? Having a note that nobody could see?)

      Destructive maybe. But the teacher seems quite prepared to pay for the shirt and the parent quite unconcerned about the shirt.

      • david

        this is not about the shirt Gerald, you are somehow overlooking that humiliating a child for any reason is not appropriate by a parent, let alone a teacher. You have no kids, if you do, I pray for them. A disruptive child needs to be sent to the office, thats it, that is where the teachers responsibilities end, humiliation is not acceptable, this boy is 7yrs old…if you don’t see the problem with what the teacher did you shouldn’t teach or be a parent. and we hit in the 80s yesterday, you want your kid wearing a SWEATER in that???

      • LeslieK

        I agree with Gerald. @ David–obviously you don’t know much about teaching. When there are 30 kids in a class, and there are repetitive issues & the parent hasn’t responded–just “send the kid to the office” doesn’t always work. First of all, there’s not enough room in the office for all of those kids! Second of all, how do you know where this teacher’s responsibility ends? Teachers are responsible for the behavior in their classroom, and if this child is unruly, it affects ALL of the students in the classroom, and can prevent them from learning…so we’re supposed to save the “fragile ego” of the unruly child so that the others will suffer? Do you have kids? I pray for them. Many children today do not know what the word “fair” means, and exaggerate discipline into something far worse than it is; a lesson learned.

    • Connie Salomone

      I agree , I am a mother of 4 and grandmother of 6 . tis is getting out of control in classrooms everywhere..these things are done to the child by the ‘person in control’ so kids in class get this lesson .. and we wonder why our children are bullied..

    • ladyvols1

      It didn’t destroy anything, it might have pushed the envelope as to how appropriate it was. The teacher was probably on her last leg in trying to get hold of this parent and if anyone saw the note the child showed them the note because the teacher placed a sweater over the note so no one would see it but the mother when she took off the child’s sweater. Via, been in a classroom lately?

  • Pati

    Parents do not get involved in their childen education. Always trying to blame someone else. Teachers are there to educate and parents should support teachers. Why didn’t she respond to the progress reports. MOM, take some responsability

    • david

      ok pati, when your kids teacher beats your kid, I hope you feel the same way? the issue with that boys parent not communicating is crap, and an excuse for bad behavior by the teacher, miami school board sucks, they are not good, and rank crap, why? because they put up with teachers like that.

  • omgjsc

    Parent should have contacted the teacher either by e-mail or phone upon receiving ANY disciplinary note. If this was being done, the teacher would not have had to resort to this method. It says that the parents had requested notes to be sent home….why not respond to the teacher when one was received?
    WHY is this even news?!!!

    • david

      it is news because regardless of why the teacher couldnt communicate with the parents, child humilitation is abuse and if the teacher didnt see that then she shouldnt be around kids. its not about parent-teacher communication, this is a diversion, under no circumstance is a teacher allowed to humiliate a child, NONE, NOT ONE, NONE.

  • Robert Squire

    In ten years or so lets see the kid humiliate his mother, then lets see her responce. If not now then when do we teach our kid to behave?

  • david

    no matter the excuse, a teacher NEVER has the right to humiliate a child and if this teacher didn’t see how this was humiliation then she is in the wrong line of work. This boy is 7 yrs old. The ends do not justify the means. This boy will probably never live this down and if you think he had problems before, wait until later, now that he can’t feel like school is a safe place to go. This child needs counseling that miami dade should pay for since they are responsible for hiring this bad teacher. If this was my kid, the school board would be in court, and nothing short of this teacher being fired would be acceptable.

    If parent communication is a problem, you let the school administration deal with it, that is THEIR JOB.

    If the child is disruptive, you send the kid to the principles office, that is THEIR JOB.

    If a child needs a safe place to be instructed, where they are protected equally among the classmates, then that is the TEACHERS JOB.

    This child was singled out, humiliated and abused by this teacher because this teacher doesn’t have the skills needed to teach children, kids that are 6 or 7 yrs old, maybe she should try another line of work if a child talking sets her on tilt.

    The worst part, and the best part about this article is that it demonstrates who bad the miami school board is, they are actually defending this teachers ABUSE of a 7yr old. It’s time for change, and with less and less education funding, we need to weed out these bad apples, they are simply not worth keeping around, even for aftercare babysitting.

    • Jamie

      As a teacher, I understand the need to rely on administration. However, when we are constantly required to handle it ourselves, what other means are left to us? Perhaps this was the only way to get the attention of the child and the parent. How many times did the teacher try something else before resorting to this? Not everything is the teacher’s fault! We have to put up with 25 different personalities all day long AND teach the material. The parents should be embarrassed, not the child, that they cannot teach their child how to behave. This is not even the responsibility of the teacher, but it has become that way because the parents do not do it. You try coming into the classroom with all of the excuses that come with the parents, the school board, etc., and we will see how you do then.

      • MarkinFLA

        Many school administrations will not get involved with anything less than a knife fight. The teachers are left on their own while not being allowed to do anything to discipline a child. The parents do not teach their child and then yell at the teacher for not doing their jobs when their kid gets in trouble. I am not a teacher, just a parent of two that has seen this happen time and again in my kids schools. The schools hands are mostly tied when it comes to disruptive kids.

      • ZZt0p


    • MarkinFLA

      Besides overstating the level of embarrassment caused by a note being attached to his shirt. (Counseling? Please)
      You should learn a little about modern schools. Many offices/administrations will do nothing if the offense is anything short of a knife fight. Teachers are left on their own to discipline and contact parents. Of course there is not anything they can actually do about a disruptive kid. With parents never setting any boundaries the kids behave however they feel like it at school and no amount of discipline within the range a teacher is allowed will change the kid’s behavior.

      This is hardly abuse. Perhaps not the best way to handle it sure. A little embarrassing, yes. Traumatic? No.

    • 4SILVAS

      David Thank you for your wise words; a child should NEVER BE HUMILIATED!!! The Teacher is setting an example that it is okay to humiliate and treat people badly and the whole class laughing at him and nothing gets done; AND WE WONDER WHY BULLYING IS OUT OF CONTROL AND PRECIOUS CHILDREN LIVES ARE BEING TAKEN BY SUICIDE!!!!!!






      • Zumaque 1

        4silvas you have never done anything with more than 4 children at a time. You have not suffered the indignities of watching despoiling by helicopter parents. If that kid commits suicide it is because he was convinced that he was humiliated after endless instruction by the parent as to why the teacher was wrong and he was just being who he was. If he was properly embarrassed he would have left the sweatshirt on, he chose to display his badge of honor to get attention from his classmates and loyalty from his MOM.

        Been there, done that, Kudo’s teach, you are paid to teach not social services for an uneducated feel-good mom.


      • Barlow

        So what about those parents that do not work and do not have phones. Yes they exist. Believe me. In three years of teaching I have ran into five of them already. Yea. It is so easy to get a hold of these people. Oh wait. They don’t care what their kid is doing in school. They gave up on disciplining the kid by the age of three. Those kids are out there. It is the new age of parenting. Have them and let them loose and how dare you discipline that kid

      • Lady Vols 1

        Haaaaa,Haaaa,Haaaa. I live in an area where the majority of people do not have e-mail and many do not have phones. 4 you are making a boatload of assumptions and believe me the only one who is getting what they want out of this is the parent…. her 15 min of fame. The kid is ballsy enough to disrespect and disobey, but he is traumatized for life because a teacher stuck a note to his shirt… UNDER his sweater… Give me a break!!!

    • Eribev

      David, what are the parent responsibilities? I appreciate your passion but your statements are based on living in a utopian society and maybe based on middle/upper class norms. It’s normal for parents who are middle/upper class to have working phone numbers, email addresses, attend conferences, send back notes, and maintain a relationship with your child’s teacher. However, in some schools because of the socioeconomic status there are rarely any working numbers, no computers are even in the home, and parents never attend one meeting. As far as administration, they keep a file at my school of the number of write ups a teacher sends and after a certain number the teacher is referred to a classroom management class. I sent a write up the other day when a student threatened to murder another student, do you think the student was ever called to the office, suspended, parent contacted? No! So, what do you tell the teacher who has tried everything? Your views are appreciated but unrealistic.

  • dbart91

    I’ve taught for 14 years, and what I know about situations like this is that if you’re the teacher and you’re not sure that the reports are getting home, you CALL the parent. I can empathize with the obvious frustration this teacher is feeling, but I would NEVER have stapled the note to a child’s shirt. As silly as it may seem, did you know the act can be considered legally as the destruction of the child’s property? Beyond that, it is just plain humiliating to the child and unprofessional. There were many other appropriate ways to handle this. It’s not enough of a violation to warrant the teacher’s firing, so I don’t support that idea. But I do think some measure of corrective action should be taken-perhaps this teacher should be made to attend classes or workshops on effective behavior management, which could help her.
    As for the teacher’s side, it is getting harder and harder to maintain a calm, focused learning environment for our students, because certain parents refuse to get involved when it comes to their children needing discipline. They don’t get involved at all, until they feel the need to complain about the way their child’s behavior is being dealt with by the teacher. Then you hear from them.
    With collective bargaining going down the drain, and no pay raises for years now, I fail to see why anyone would want to enter this profession anymore. The pay is low, the benefits are getting more limited and costing more out-of-pocket, there’s no funding for supplies, so you have to spend your own money to make sure you have what you need for the kids (imagine people in the private sector having to put up with that!) You get very little respect and very little cooperation from many parents (not all-some are absolutely WONDERFUL), and most times the county doesn’t have your back.
    Listen up, Florida: if changes don’t come around soon, we’re going to lose many great teachers, and we’ll slide even further down into the education gap.

  • Miss D

    Now his little behind will know when he enters the classroom not to talk or he gets another note pin on his shirt for misbehaving. And what the mom should have done was asked her son how many times did the teacher say “stop talking” before pinning the note on his shirt. And if the response was more than once, the mom should have spanked his behind.

    • Witty Wife


      I have kids, and if my son came home with a note pinned to him, I’d call the teacher and tell her to do it again if he misbehaves again.

      • Barlow

        Like. There is the answer my mom would have given. To her a phone call home was emberrassing to her. And I’d hear about. I didn’t fear my teachers I feared my parents and that is missing in today’s society.

  • Witty Wife


    I have two kids.

    I’d side with the teacher and tell my son not to misbehave again. Then I’d give the teacher permission to staple a note to him again.

    • "old" mom

      I completely agree. And I realize that corporal punishment is frowned on these days, but if MY kids had ever done something to deserve getting a note stapled to their shirt, they wouldn’t have had me blaming the school, and WOULD have had a slap across the rear end! There is a BIG difference between discipline and abuse; I DO NOT advocate abuse, but a smack on the rear is an attention getter. BTW my kids are adults now, and can’t believe how badly some of today’s kids behave, mainly because their parents defend them on stupid issues such as this, and do not enforce any discipline.

  • Michelle Robbins

    No, David, it is people like you who allow this children to consistently misbehave and disrupt others. Take the kid out of the class and school, it’s better for everyone else in the long run. The teacher was in the right.

    • Shan

      I sooooo agree with you!!

  • WakeUpPeople

    You have never been a teacher, it is obvious!!!! Don’t say anything if you do not know the WHOLE story. Children do not always tell the whole story or the truth!!

    • 4silvas

      they might not rember exactly what you said or did but THEY WILL REMEMBER HOW YOU MADE THEM FEEL — WakeUPPeople you need to wake up and stop teaching if you do not know how to INSPIRE AND MOTIVATE becuase we do not need more people acting just like you through your teachings so do us a favor and go read a huge book on how to teach virtues

      • Jess

        Not that I’m trying to bring religion into this, but one of the biggest books on virtue you can read is called the Bible. And it says that disciplining a child will cure their foolish acting. As the mother of 4 boys, 3 of them in elementary school, I inspire and motivate my children every single day to succeed. They are honor roll students. They also know how to sit down and be quiet in class because I have done MY job as a parent and they know that there are consequences for every action. This teacher was most likely at her wits end with a parent who hadn’t done her job and a student who thinks it’s funny to be bad in class.

  • William Newsreader

    Your crazy. I have three kids and a little bit of embarassment can go long way to teach a kid a lesson in life. I never hit my kids but instead do my best to let them know in other ways. Forcing them to be embarrassed about behaing poorly is very constructive. How would the mother recommend they teach her kid to not speak out of turn? Mom?

    We dont speak out of turn becuase it is rude. This child’s reaction was anger… Apparently he is not learning the lessons he needs from home, so the teacher creativley got the message across.

    • Roger

      I had a teacher in the eighth grade, Mrs. Van Sanders who caught me shooting a spitball and embarrassed me so well, I never did anything like that again!!!!!!!

      This woman and probably her kid need a good tanning!!!

  • "B"

    This is not about humiliation, but about consequences of one’s actions. If he doesn’t learn it at 7 years old, he’ll learn it down the road from his peer group. I was singled out by my teacher for talking in class, and when my mother found out, I was punished at home. I quit talking in class. I graduated with a straight “A” average, went to college by working my way through because my folks didn’t have the money to send me, and made something of myself. I learned quickly to respect the rights of others, and that the world didn’t revolve around me. It was a lesson all kids need to learn. This was not humiliation. How are kids ever going to grow up and learn to deal with the real world if they aren’t made to face minor things like this? I wore glasses in school and the other kids made fun of me. I didn’t like it, but I learned how to deal with difficult people, and I sure didn’t end up with a complex and needing counseling. Quit making kids into wimps!

  • "B"

    This was in no way abuse. It was discipline. So he was embarrassed? Not by his behavior, obviously! Seven years old or not, this was not an incident that is going to cause lifelong trauma or need psychological counseling. Grow up!

    If everyone continues to let their kids get by with anything, and never learn to deal with conflict, how do you expect them to function in the real world? I was made fun of in school, and I didn’t like it, but I learned to deal with difficult people, which was a valuable lesson for my adulthood.

    I got in trouble with my teacher for talking. She called me down in front of the class, and I was made to stand in the corner. My Mom disciplined me for it when I got home. I learned to not talk in class and disturb other students, and the teacher was creative enough to see that I was bored (didn’t have any gifted programs then), so she let me help out the librarian. I loved it. I also got an unlimited library pass, when the rule generally was that you could only check out two books per week. The teachers all tried to help, but they didn’t give me license to go around disturbing everyone else, and they should not have.

    My mother didn’t expect the teachers to raise me — she set the standards and expected me to follow them. I learned to do that. Some of the lessons were painful and involved a switch to my behind. I matured from it, didn’t have any major trauma, went on to college and paid for it myself, and made something of my life. That’s because the household didn’t revolve around me. It shouldn’t.

    The mother should have followed up on the teacher’s reports, and she should hold her child to the standard of behaving in class, respecting other children, and respecting the teacher. If she allows him to get by with anything he wants to do, just because his feelings were hurt, she’ll live to bitterly regret it.

  • Neil Weekly

    My point of view, I have no problem with the teacher stapling the note to the child’s shirt. When I grew up this was common practice by the teachers in elementary school. I know the child states that he was embarrassed and humiliated, especially when the other children laughed at him.

    1. Whether it is being sent to the corner, being put in the chair next to the teachers desk, or having a note stapled to you, in most cases children feel embarrased and humiliated and some kids will laugh at them.

    2. I have children of my own who have come home with notes disciplinary stapled to them in the past and they to have told me the exact same thing the first time it happened that the mother’s child told her. My reply to them was “It’s called punishment, nobody said it was going to be sunshine and daisies. If you didn’t like the way it made you feel then don’t do it again and you will have learned your lesson. Now go start your homework dinner will be ready in a half an hour.”

    • frances

      I wish I’d had your children in class when I taught school. Thanks for being a great parent!

  • April

    I has nothing to do with “someone else to blame”. I would be upset if my child came home with a note stapled on their shirt. First, I would handle the matter at hand of his acting up.I have two boys in school and never once have they come home with a note stapled to their shirt. If their teacher needs to reach me she sends a note home in their binder and incase that gets lost she also emails me. I mean how hard is that? It is not acceptable, there are other ways of reaching a parent. What happened to the telephone, or a letter, oh, wait….now we even have email. I mean really…..stapled to this child’s shirt. My children are not perfect and when they act up there is NO ONE to blame but them. Even at 6 and 8 they understand and know they are responsible for their own actions and for every action there will be a consquece. But at the same time the teacher needs to act her age. I am not saying she is a bad teacher and needs to stay at home but some people don’t see things the way she does and when dealing with the public you need to think first, then act. I am very involved with my children’s lives, at home and at school. And the school has other ways to reach a parent. If the child constantly acted up and she felt the notes were not be delivered then she should have tried to schedule a confrence or spoken to the principal or even a conselor.

    • MarkinFLA

      I agree with you 90%, but it does seem as if the parent pretty much ignored the notes since the teacher had not heard anything from the parents yet the mom claims to have been getting the notes. Potential damage to the shirt is one thing. But it sounds like she tried to address the embarrassment issue but the kid still showed his note. Probably thought it was funny but when mom was mad went along with the “upset” angle.

    • ZZtop

      Give me a break. Now I know why the youth of this country are doomed.

    • KSpokane

      I would be

    • DocLowery

      I agree with you. I don’t care how unruly the child was by law you are not suppose to touch a child for any reason.

      That broad has issues and shouldn’t be in a classroom. Something worse is going to happen. What if in her haste to staple a not to this second grader, she stapled him. Then all you so call parents wouldn’t be so eager to accept this. When I was in school, teachers could paddle you in your hand but those aren’t the laws anymore. We live in a world where adults have so many freaking issues that most of them should not be exposed to children.

      • Stephen K.

        Stapled him? That’s just too ridiculous; obviously you’re just looking for a “problem.”

        The kid NEEDS to be paddled.

        Not touched for any reason? What if you find a big kid thoroughly pummeling a much smaller one? You let him injure the smaller one–because you mustn’t touch him?

    • SallyG

      People like YOU and your above cohort are the reason the schools are the way they are. These brats are running rampant…even sat in on a classroom and saw what really goes on? You might be surprised. The days are coming when public schooling will no longer be possible because of poorly behaved and undiciplined kids.

    • Stephen K

      Not everybody has email, and maybe the ones who do don’t always give it to their kids’ teachers. And what about the ones who never answer the phones, and never return messages?

    • Too Bad

      You are the kind of parent that has children that respect authority. This woman is not that kind of parent. She makes excuses for her children and allows them to think that it is ok to question authority. You are an adult, this poor woman needs help.
      Don’t put yourself on the same level or try to judge the situation the way YOU would handle it. You obvioulsy arent mentally the same as this mom in the story. It tells you that she did not respond to previous notes that she admits that she recieved.

      The teacher was put in a place were she had to do something unorthodoxed to get this parents attention….guess it worked. Too bad her child will now be confused about whether or not he must obey his teachers from now on. He’ll grow up and be arrested numerous times most likely – at the very least. Shame…

  • Mrs. Brightside

    So sending a student to the principal’s office is not singling a student out? Even if it wasn’t singling a student out now that they are in the principal’s office they are missing the lesson and then we have a real disservice. The teacher dealt the issue accordingly. If humiliation from peers was not her intent; having a note on your shirt, even if no one can see it, is an embarrassing feeling which is what non spanking children need. Seeing what happens to a student who misbehaves is pure motivation for other students to behave. Fear and respect go hand in hand at this age without a fear of consequence respect does not exist.

    Parents, when a teacher notifies you that your child is misbehaving address your child. That is the purpose of the notification. Take the responsibility to inform the student and teacher what appropriate consequences will commence if the misbehavior continues. With this the teacher only has to say “would you like me to call your mother” and if your child respects you as much as you think they do; they will straighten up.

    Teachers and parents are supposed to be a team just like mother and father. Too many students have been able to vilify teachers because parents don’t take the time to understand that the teacher really does have your child’s best interest at heart. Instead parents tell teachers they should be fired and never allowed to teach again for making a student wait their turn to speak.
    It takes a village to raise a child.

  • C. Lindorfer

    As a parent of 6, I have gotten notes home stapled , safety pined, and taped to the back of my child. It’s a great way to insure mom and dad see it! Personally I think this parents problem with it is that she could not turn a blind eye to her sons behavior by simply saying I didn’t see the note. The fact that the child was embarrassed by the note, and not his actions that resulted in the note, tells me this child is very accustomed to no repercussions for his actions. Perhaps it’s time for mom to take note and help her son adjust to what is expected from him in the classroom. She need to start by realizing that changing classrooms or schools teaches her son that if you don’t like something, just don’t do it. He is going to have a lot of fun as an adult when it is time to work.

    • Gena Sissy Garner Crawford

      I agree wholeheartedly! You said it better than I could.

  • john rob

    There is nothing wrong with the teacher, if a teacher has gone to the extreme of stapling a note to the kids shirt, then that teacher has probably tried to send home a hundred notes and has gotten no reply from the deadbeat parents, who dont take a care for the kids or what they do at school.
    School is a babysitting service for these people whose brats get away with murder in school. Doesnt matter if the kid is 4 or 19, if the parents do nothing until it reaches a stapled letter, then both the kid and parents deserve what they get.
    And you bleeding heart nitwits who think that teachers have any control over what goes on in class nowadays, spend a day or two in a public school or two near you…your eyes will be open to no discipline, kids who dont want to be there but have to be, no children left behind my butt, and to parents who let their kids run free both in school and out of school.
    David, a teachers job is to teach, not be a circus ringleader…kids go to school, sit absorb, spit out what is taught by way of a test, and then socialize between class and before and after school.
    Nowadays, its cell phones every 5 minutes in the bathrooms, talk back to teachers, non-stop horseplay, laziness unlike anything seen..and the 50 or 60% of the good kids have to suffer thru the jackass because of parents above and a school system that cannot do anything to discipline these kids in the day and age of non-stop litigation.

  • mmm

    It is interesting that the mother said that child was embarrassed and humiliated, but the child stated that he was angry and mad.

  • Harvie

    When I was a kid the punishment often was standing at the blackboard with a tiny circle drown on it and you were required to keep your nose in the circle for a few minutes…unless the teacher forgot and you could end up with your nose in the circle for 30 minutes. Usually a kid never had to do that more than once. Also teachers were allowed to paddle unruly kids. There was no need for police officers in schools because the teachers could enforce the rules. Taking prayer out of schools was not the problem. Taking paddling and common sense out of schools is the problem. Kids get embarrassed about all kinds of things and being made an example of in front of the class is one of them. But the method usually works. If my kid had come home from school with a note attached to her shirt I would have read the note and if it was a behavioral problem I would have punished the kid and thanked the teacher for letting me know.

    • jaxxy21

      my schooling was the same,,you respected and feared the teacher. both my girls were raised to have the utmost respect for teachers yet they rarely got it back.

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